ableton Live – How to crossfade between 4 loops in realtime ?

April 29th, 2010


This question stared after having recorded 4 audio clips from my modular synth in 4 separate audio tracks. I’m wondering how to crossfade between 4 tracks in realtime using the joystick of my FaderFox micromodul LV2 ? A kind of vector mixing between these 4 tracks ?

What I’ve tried first was to make some group tracks:
- Group Track 1 = Track A + Track C
- Group Track 2 = Track B + Track D.

Then I assigned the X MIDI controller of the FaderFox’s joystick to control the level of track A and in opposite the level of track C. I did the same for Track B and D with the Y MIDI controller of the FaderFox’s joystick. But that’s not a true vector crossfader.

I think that the X MIDI controller of the FaderFox’s joystick should also control the level of the Group Track 2 and the same with the Y MIDI controller of the FaderFox’s joystick for the level of the Group Track 1. But then the MIDI controllers values must be mapped to have a special curve …

Instead of thinking about axis (X and Y) where each of the four audio sources is along these axis (axis X : source A & source C – axis Y : source B & source D), the idea was to think about a square where each corner is an audio source. Here is what I’ve done …


1 – I cut my 4 loops to the same length (16 bars in this case) and put each on its own track.


2 – Right-click on each audio clip and convert them with “Slice in a new MIDI track”.


3 – Select the smaller resolution you can have (here 1/8 bar give 128 slices) and for Slice Preset select “Slice to single Sampler”.


4 – Now you should have 4 new MIDI tracks in which you have a single Sampler instrument playing a 16 bar MIDI loop triggering 128 sample slices of the former audio loops => Loop 1, Loop 2, Loop 3, Loop 4.


5 – Create a new MIDI track, copy the first Sampler instrument in it (Loop 1), and copy the MIDI clip too.


6 – Create a rack with this Sampler instrument and copy in it the second Sampler instrument (from the 2d audio loop : Loop 1) => Rack 1-2 with MIDI triggered loops 1 & 2.


7 – Embedded Rack 1-2 into an new rack => Main Rack.


8 – Duplicate Rack 1-2 and rename the copy Rack 3-4.


9 – Copy into Rack 3-4 Sampler instruments Loop 3 and Loop 4, and delete Sampler instruments Loop 1 and Loop 2 which were copied when we have duplicated Rack 1-2 (see previous step 8).


10 – Now in each sub-racks (Rack 1-2 and Rack 3-4), click on the CHAIN button and draw a crossfade with respectively Loop 1 and Loop 2, and Loop 3 and Loop 4.


11 – For each sub-racks (Rack 1-2 and Rack 3-4), assign a circular knob to control the crossfade between respectively Loop 1 and Loop 2, and Loop 3 and Loop 4.


12 – On the Main Rack assign a circular knob to control both knob from Rack 1-2 and Rack 3-4, and label it Fade X.


13 – On the Main Rack, click on the CHAIN button and draw a crossfade between Rack 1-2 and Rack 3-4 and assign a second circular knob to control the main crossfade. Label it Fade Y.


14 – Assign MIDI controller to knobs b>Fade X and b>Fade Y and have fun !!! 8)


NOTES
- You should make some minors level adjustments in each of the 4 Sampler instruments to get a good audio balance.
- If you are using a MIDI joystick (I’m using the one in my Faderfox micromodul LV2), each corner is an audio source. Making circles with the joystick crossfade between the 4 audio sources.
- If you put the joystick in the central position, you may get a kind of “bad spot” audio level, but it depends on your audio materials too.


ableton Live – How to crossfade between 4 loops in realtime ? by hpsounds


More informations about vector synthesis here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_synthesis

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2 Responses to “ableton Live – How to crossfade between 4 loops in realtime ?”

  1. chris says:

    ableton live allows you to it in four steps :

    - enter in midi mode CTRL-M.
    - select the first track volume, move the joystick and try to get the CC for the vertical axis.
    - select the second track volume, move the joystick and try to get the CC for the vertical axis in the mappings browser, right click the second mapping and select invert range.
    - select the third track volume, move the joystick and try to get the CC for the vertical axis.
    - select the fourth track volume, move the joystick and try to get the CC for the vertical axis in the mappings browser, right click the fourth mapping and select invert range.
    - select the crossfader, move the joystick and try to get the CC for the horizontal axis
    - leave midi mode CTRL-M.
    - now assign the crossfader A for the first two track and B for the last two

    that’s all

  2. Hédi K. says:

    Thanks for this other tips, but I’ve already tried it too and there is some low level mixing spots when you are moving the joystick. That is something to do with the fade/crossfade curves I think …

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